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summercomfort ([personal profile] summercomfort) wrote2020-08-13 10:33 am
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Ack

So.... my husband has a tendency for doom.



Usually I deal with that by doubling down on my faith in humanity, etc etc. But sometimes I draw comics in response. For example, this comic was a response to Spouse asking me that exact question one night. Talking with him about his worries about the aftermath of the election helped solidify the last part of Vote Prep. (He was talking about, even if we are able to get past all of the ballot shenanigans that Trump is currently pulling and manage to win, there's 30-40% of the population who would be very angry, and also have guns. Yipes.)

Anyway, this morning he said he's going to start researching places to emigrate to, since America is a failed state, and that we should do so before November, since countries would not want to deal with American refugees after the election. I was like "but a lot of borders are closed due to COVID." SIGH. I mean, my parents did immigrate to the US when I was 5, and Miss Rutabaga is currently 4, so that's definitely a thing that we can do. There are some pretty decent English-speaking countries out there that aren't America. I'd have to find a new job, hopefully still in teaching, but it's probably going to take a few years to get re-credentialed, unless I teach at an International School of some sort.

I like where we live, but I also know that we're in this tiny bubble where Things Are All Right, and probably will be after the election, mostly because we're in the upper-middle professional caste in a very liberal area (I think 73% went for Hillary in 2016). At the end of the day, though, the thing I'm most worried about is the further damage that a second 4 years of Trump would do to the climate. (Yes, a lot of organizations and corporations are doing a lot of good stuff, but we need national emissions standards, we need to stop funding fossil fuels, etc etc.) That's something that we can't run away from by moving to another country. Also -- if America does go to utter shit and 2020 is the last election we'll have (which is what Spouse says to me all the time), a fascist America is going to threaten a lot of world systems.

Anyway, sorry for all the doom and gloom -- I usually try to process Spouse's doom-mongering myself, but sometimes it just gets too much.
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2020-08-13 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I hear you. Transfusing hope and sanity to another person, however beloved, can leave one a quart low.

*hugs you sustainingly*

In addition to all your other plans you may want to find someone to talk to, with or without Hoosband, over the next several very stressful months.
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[personal profile] potofsoup 2020-08-14 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
<3 Thank you! Do you mean some sort of therapist? Or just a person willing to put up with doom and gloom?
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2020-08-14 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Either, but a therapist does have actual training in this area. *sends you encouragement*
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[personal profile] yeloson 2020-08-13 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
While I do think having a bailout plan is a good thing to have in back up, realistically, it's not easy to permanently emigrate quickly, and even less so in a pandemic. Likewise, we're not sure how stable ANYWHERE is going to be next year.

Useful things that are not hyper commitments:

1) Having money in a few banks that aren't US based.

2) Checking in w/friends/family in various countries - you might not be able to permanently emigrate, but if y'all can get a visa/people to stay with a couple of months, you have a springboard location for worst case scenarios.

If you have a few different people in different places, you have more proofing against travel bans. (Also good to check in w/people even if the country they're in currently is closed to the US, etc. bc it might be open again later down the line).

3) Asking trusted local friends/people if they would be willing to look after your home if you have to bail quickly. They can help in case if anything needs to be sent, or affairs in clearing it out for sale later, or renting it.

Right now, the best answer seems to me to have flexible options to adapt because nothing is a clear direction just yet.
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2020-08-14 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
*takes note of this good advice*
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[personal profile] potofsoup 2020-08-14 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the awesome advice, Chris! <3