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summercomfort) wrote2010-06-11 04:46 pm
summercomfort) wrote2010-06-11 04:46 pm
Iron Man 2
Yeah, finally saw it last night with the Jono, about a month after everyone else. XD
Basic reactions:
"Um... what?"
- Ivan Vanko having a FORGE in his APARTMENT
- Ivan Vanko, in Russia, somehow knowing 6 months in advance that Tony is going to drive on the race track in Monaco, even though Pepper didn't know.
- Ivan Vanko speaking eloquent English with Tony and craptastic English with Hammer
- S.H.I.E.L.D having the exact plans and notes and video for the arc reactor.
- "New element" "design" embedded in a model city. Guyz do you even know basic science?
- "My dad is a cold calculating guy who sells weapons to the military". One MAGICAL video later: "My dad is a warm-hearted guy who just wanted to create a utopia using technology." (Did I mention that this video clip is in a suitcase in some random S.H.I.E.L.D archive???
"Squee!!"
- Iron Man portable SUITcase (I was clutching at Jono over the hawtness)
- Tony and Pepper talking over each other because they are secretly an old married couple
- Tony with "Ima gonna die anyway... ah, fukkit" angst.
- Sam Rockwell as Hammer.
- "Get another roof"
"That's good, but..."
- Why did Ivan have to turn into generic villain? Wish he had more character development time, or at least more character interactions with Tony.
- The military/Hammer/Stark technology grab stuff could have been made far more interesting, I think.
- The S.H.I.E.L.D and the Natasha aspect is kind of superfluous. It was cool seeing Natasha kick ass, but felt like random fluff. I know they're trying to build up to Avengers movie, but just became one more under-developed subplot.
- Wish there was more development of the father-son legacy theme, especially since it plays so well with the first movie.
Afterthoughts:
Jono and I had a good conversation about what makes superhero movies good (the character interactions, not the fighting), but how the superhero premise is still necessary to create the character interactions and the character angst. The fun part of Iron Man is really the office comedy part, but without the Iron Man suit and the problems of technology and alternate identities and life-threatening scenarios, it would be merely an office comedy. Things that I've been thinking about for Jianghu -- the relationship between the fighting (what makes martial arts stories martial arts", and the Jianghu relationships (what makes martial arts stories cool).
Ivan as a developed yet underdeveloped character. I felt like Ivan had a lot of character depth, but not a lot of chance to show it on screen. His bitterness, his intelligence, his legacy, his criminal deviousness. Sounds a lot like a character that I would play in a role-playing game -- someone who internalizes a lot of things, and therefore becomes underdeveloped and overdeveloped at the same time. On the other hand, Tony is someone whose internal life and external life (and the dissonance between them) plays out very well on screen. Food for thought.
Basic reactions:
"Um... what?"
- Ivan Vanko having a FORGE in his APARTMENT
- Ivan Vanko, in Russia, somehow knowing 6 months in advance that Tony is going to drive on the race track in Monaco, even though Pepper didn't know.
- Ivan Vanko speaking eloquent English with Tony and craptastic English with Hammer
- S.H.I.E.L.D having the exact plans and notes and video for the arc reactor.
- "New element" "design" embedded in a model city. Guyz do you even know basic science?
- "My dad is a cold calculating guy who sells weapons to the military". One MAGICAL video later: "My dad is a warm-hearted guy who just wanted to create a utopia using technology." (Did I mention that this video clip is in a suitcase in some random S.H.I.E.L.D archive???
"Squee!!"
- Iron Man portable SUITcase (I was clutching at Jono over the hawtness)
- Tony and Pepper talking over each other because they are secretly an old married couple
- Tony with "Ima gonna die anyway... ah, fukkit" angst.
- Sam Rockwell as Hammer.
- "Get another roof"
"That's good, but..."
- Why did Ivan have to turn into generic villain? Wish he had more character development time, or at least more character interactions with Tony.
- The military/Hammer/Stark technology grab stuff could have been made far more interesting, I think.
- The S.H.I.E.L.D and the Natasha aspect is kind of superfluous. It was cool seeing Natasha kick ass, but felt like random fluff. I know they're trying to build up to Avengers movie, but just became one more under-developed subplot.
- Wish there was more development of the father-son legacy theme, especially since it plays so well with the first movie.
Afterthoughts:
Jono and I had a good conversation about what makes superhero movies good (the character interactions, not the fighting), but how the superhero premise is still necessary to create the character interactions and the character angst. The fun part of Iron Man is really the office comedy part, but without the Iron Man suit and the problems of technology and alternate identities and life-threatening scenarios, it would be merely an office comedy. Things that I've been thinking about for Jianghu -- the relationship between the fighting (what makes martial arts stories martial arts", and the Jianghu relationships (what makes martial arts stories cool).
Ivan as a developed yet underdeveloped character. I felt like Ivan had a lot of character depth, but not a lot of chance to show it on screen. His bitterness, his intelligence, his legacy, his criminal deviousness. Sounds a lot like a character that I would play in a role-playing game -- someone who internalizes a lot of things, and therefore becomes underdeveloped and overdeveloped at the same time. On the other hand, Tony is someone whose internal life and external life (and the dissonance between them) plays out very well on screen. Food for thought.
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He knew (and so did Pepper) that he would be there, just not necessarily on the track. His whole plan was not to kill Tony Stark, but draw out Iron Man and kill him or at least hurt him if possible.
My biggest problem with the movie was that the second half of the movie was rushed and didn't have any real tension to it. The bad guys he fought weren't really menacing at all despite all the build-up. Once Stark fixed his suit, the movie didn't really give you many reasons to keep watching.
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