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summercomfort) wrote2013-12-14 08:18 am
summercomfort) wrote2013-12-14 08:18 am
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Laying awake having feels about Captain America and 杨过. This is a very tumblr moment.
Thinking about how the 3 protagonists of the Condor series has 3 different approaches to heroism --
郭靖 acts heroically without thinking about it -- his whole deal is that he's most successful when he thinks the least. His story is only interesting after he gets paired up with 黄蓉, who only acts heroically when she's influenced by 郭靖.
杨过 acts heroically in spite of himself -- he's always in situations where he wants to do the wrong thing, but can't bring himself to do it (ex: when he really wants to kill 郭靖 for political and personal reasons, but ends up saving him at great expense.) Really, any scene with 郭芙, he does the right thing while cursing himself. The heroic actions that he does is often at great personal cost.
张无忌 tries to do what he thinks is the right thing -- his conflict is that what the right action for him personally at any given moment isn't what is societally perceived to be the right thing. Ironic because societal morals is what guides all of his behavior. He tries to be honorable to 赵敏 and uphold promises, and Jianghu suspects him of consorting with the evil Mongols. He defends the "bad guys" against the evil actions of the "good guys." But this makes the story much more focused on these complex opposing forces of the Jianghu rather than about 张无忌. It makes 张无忌's world much more interesting than his character, whereas with 杨过 it is the opposite -- his character is far more interesting than his world.
Of those three, I like 杨过 the most.
Captain America (sorry, not a serious comics nerd -- just based on the movie and that 1 comic I read) seems to do the right thing after much thought. He's not like 杨过, in that he isn't dragged into heroic actions kicking and screaming, but he's also not like 郭靖, who does good without thought, and he's not like 张无忌, in that he's not guided by societal expectations. He has to consciously choose the right actions, and like 杨过, it often comes at great personal cost. And that's why I'm laying in bed with feels about Captain America and 杨过.
Thinking about how the 3 protagonists of the Condor series has 3 different approaches to heroism --
郭靖 acts heroically without thinking about it -- his whole deal is that he's most successful when he thinks the least. His story is only interesting after he gets paired up with 黄蓉, who only acts heroically when she's influenced by 郭靖.
杨过 acts heroically in spite of himself -- he's always in situations where he wants to do the wrong thing, but can't bring himself to do it (ex: when he really wants to kill 郭靖 for political and personal reasons, but ends up saving him at great expense.) Really, any scene with 郭芙, he does the right thing while cursing himself. The heroic actions that he does is often at great personal cost.
张无忌 tries to do what he thinks is the right thing -- his conflict is that what the right action for him personally at any given moment isn't what is societally perceived to be the right thing. Ironic because societal morals is what guides all of his behavior. He tries to be honorable to 赵敏 and uphold promises, and Jianghu suspects him of consorting with the evil Mongols. He defends the "bad guys" against the evil actions of the "good guys." But this makes the story much more focused on these complex opposing forces of the Jianghu rather than about 张无忌. It makes 张无忌's world much more interesting than his character, whereas with 杨过 it is the opposite -- his character is far more interesting than his world.
Of those three, I like 杨过 the most.
Captain America (sorry, not a serious comics nerd -- just based on the movie and that 1 comic I read) seems to do the right thing after much thought. He's not like 杨过, in that he isn't dragged into heroic actions kicking and screaming, but he's also not like 郭靖, who does good without thought, and he's not like 张无忌, in that he's not guided by societal expectations. He has to consciously choose the right actions, and like 杨过, it often comes at great personal cost. And that's why I'm laying in bed with feels about Captain America and 杨过.