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[summercomfort]

1) 3pm tomorrow is when EVERYTHING is due!
2) I have to write a speech in Chinese. This is slightly a problem because I'm probably better at classical Chinese than normal Chinese. :X 唉哉！
3) lolhistory Finally: the right Lol for me!


Pet peeve of the day: "do to" instead of "due to." (Seriously, >3 cases today)

Also, is it "Hear hear!" or "Here here!"? I tend to think it's the former

Comments

[nyankoframe.livejournal.com]

I've always used "hear hear", though I've heard "here, here" used quite often too, but it always seems wrong to me. ^^;;;

[eptified.livejournal.com]

It's "hear hear!", pretty sure.

I spent last sunday at work mostly looking at lolcats. I think it broke me.

[idothattopeople.livejournal.com]

Don't you know that Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hear_hear) has all the answers!

What the wiki page does not mention is that, in contemporary English, 'hear' cannot be used in the imperative, especially without an object. You cannot tell someone who isn't hearing you to 'hear'. A little less worse, but still not good, is to say 'hear me'. You can use it with the idiomatic 'hear __ out' construction, as in 'hear me out!'.

I think the hear/listen distinction might mirror the see/(look, watch) distinction. 'Hear' and 'see' cannot be used in the imperative, but 'listen', 'look', and 'watch' can. I think we might be able to give a good semantic explanation---hearing and seeing are involuntary, passive actions, while looking, watching, and listening are voluntary, active actions. Note the difference between "I can't look" and "I can't see".

Back to topic: I thought it was spelled "here, here", but the etymology given on the Wikipedia article convinces me otherwise. Either way, the idiomatic expression "hear, hear" is seriously distinct from the meaning of "hear".

[theosakakoneko.livejournal.com]

Definitely hear hear. No question.

[benlehman.livejournal.com]

"Here, here" and "hear , hear" have different meanings.

One is like "yay, this thing!" The other is like "yay, listen up!"

yrs--
--Ben

[armen.livejournal.com]

In my experience with so-called "grammar nazis," I've always seen it be "Hear Hear!"

Also, I feel your pain with the speech-writing. I'm better at classical Japanese than I am with modern Japanese, so Japanese class was always a pain (I had to teach myself the rudiments of modern Japanese because I had several teachers who were hired because they were Japanese and not because they had training or experience). I also pick up dialects faster for some reason.

[kitsuchan.livejournal.com]

I would write it "hear hear!" if I ever had the need to write it at all.

Good luck on the speech! Why not run it by a parent if you're nervous? Also, the lolhistory is definitely the best. No cats, but it did have the defenestration of Prague.